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PostSubject: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:24 pm

So the youth fair competition (15's) is this weekend March 27th

May be a preview of nat's??? so who's going?

MLEC is hopefully bringing 4 bots

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:56 am

At Ransom, things have been going waaaay to slowly. We will be lucky to have one decent 'bot there:
Woodynator 2.

I'm actually kinda pissed at my students right now--we spent a TON of money on parts, but half the time they don't show up, and the other half they don't do anything (Except Will Bales, of course). It really is as if they don't realize that the last competition of the year is less than a month away.
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:56 am

I thought that a version of fluffy was going to attend as well?

Motivating students can sometimes be really tough....at times Paul gets very upset...at the moment, most seem pretty excited...thankfully.

the timing of the fair is perfect for those who have their act kind of together, in that it is a great opportunity to test things out and tweak or nat's

Personally, I hate all the last minute untested/unproven bot thing....especially going to an important event...

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:15 pm

Ya.. Woodynator 2 WILL be going, but Fluffy 2 was put on the backburner so that at least one robot gets to youth fair, and so Alex and I pass English class. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:17 am

you gotta do what you gotta do...

fwiw.....Rattler and Sting Em now BOTH have S7 drums......heading out to heat treat today....similar to It stings and Sting, except with a slight concave radius on the top of the teeth....as opposed to the convex radius on the last design.

Here's a pic...from left to right Sting helix, Sting 'Em , Rattler 1



on a side note, sot is getting sting's current drum and sting is getting a helical tooth drum

rattler 2 or ttatt may also have an optional horizontal neutralizer as well....to test its efectiveness vs duh...horizontals.... affraid David Kirkpatrick from Coral Park is supposed to be bringing a couple of horizontal spinners, and being a physics prof...they should have decent energy...I hope!!

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:14 pm

wow.. how much does a chunk of S7 cost? those look heavy and dangerous! should be fun!
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:24 pm

Will Bales wrote:
wow.. how much does a chunk of S7 cost? those look heavy and dangerous! should be fun!

actually not all that much....18" of 1.5" dia $30 3 feet of 2 3/4" was around $117 before shipping ( normally a bit more, but I got a deal)

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:35 pm

Where did you get it from? That's cheap! A piece 8*12*3/4 was $300!
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:25 pm

Will Bales wrote:
Where did you get it from? That's cheap! A piece 8*12*3/4 was $300!

Crucible steel..just before they closed up their distributor network...now their stuff is sold through Latrobe, but prices are still pretty good...wholesale anyhow.

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:29 am

I've created a monster. Woodynator 2's disc is obsene. I'm not kidding. major error in judgement on my part. 1/4" Polycarbonate isn't gonna contain this thing. You'll see it tomorrow.. man.. it's comically massive.
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:03 am

photosphotosphotosphotos!! bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:41 pm

Will Bales wrote:
I've created a monster. Woodynator 2's disc is obsene. I'm not kidding. major error in judgement on my part. 1/4" Polycarbonate isn't gonna contain this thing. You'll see it tomorrow.. man.. it's comically massive.

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:10 pm

i gotta say this one is kinda questionable i think.
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:54 pm

who should have won?

rattler drum was spinning the wrong way and broke that beater in half....no damage at all to rattler's drum....

wait till you see ttatt vs wobbler (I think) judges gave the decision to wobbler...if wobbler won that match, I'll quit being an advisor to robotics

hopefully someone will put up some video.....we almost had a riot on our hands....neither we nor the parents were very happy, to say the least.

1 judge in particular must hate us so much, that in the finals, our students knew that they would have to win by knockout , or they would lose no matter what.

so, in the end our all girls team, sponsored by Mastercam did the job and the other bot tapped after losing a wheel and 1/2" of steel axle shaft.

Sting Em (the girlie bot) went undefeated

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:38 pm

And Ransom's only entry SUCKED.Embarassed

That's exactly what you get when the robot isn't assembled until 10 minutes before you put it in the car to drive to the match.

But hey--it's got NO damage. Smile

We troubleshoot and it's ready for BBIQ "Nationals"

And the 3/4 thick, 8 inch diameter hardened and annealed S7 flywheel is AWESOME. (It just doesn't turn yet)
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:41 pm

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And Ransom's only entry SUCKED.Embarassed

That's exactly what you get when the robot isn't assembled until 10 minutes before you put it in the car to drive to the match.

But hey--it's got NO damage. Smile

We troubleshoot and it's ready for BBIQ "Nationals"

And the 3/4 thick, 8 inch diameter hardened and annealed S7 flywheel is AWESOME. (It just doesn't turn yet)

I tip my hat to you guys for making the effort and actually showing up with a bot!!! Woody 2 looks good......!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:53 am

Here's another kind of funny one...StingEm's (all girl team drumbot) debut fight...one of these 2 bots won the award for 'Best Engineered robot'....guess which bot won the award?

also guess which bot went undefeated?

http://www.youtube.com/user/RattlerRobots#p/u/0/CDzN2cJoKFw

did I mention dog and pony show?

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:04 am

Alex Udanis wrote:
.......guess which one i actually believe was designed by students

Probably NOT Aftershock or Shockwave...from what I've heard

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:47 am

How about this one? semi final match

http://www.youtube.com/user/jcoello43#p/u/2/GY0H9S40SfY

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:00 pm

the finals

http://www.youtube.com/user/jcoello43#p/u/3/UJ26Z4_ZQNA

imo, this should have been a ttatt vs stingem final...in which case, it was pre-decided thatthey would go at each other full force!!

It could have been a great final...but it was not to be... Sad

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:18 pm

well that fact that they couldnt spin the drum even the right way kinda sways my opinion a little bit.
You have to remember it isnt all about damaga either

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:35 pm

Cody Harris wrote:
well that fact that they couldnt spin the drum even the right way kinda sways my opinion a little bit.
You have to remember it isnt all about damaga either

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I would not have had a problem with the decision going the other way in that fight...even tho, some do spin the opposite way to get the sum of both bots energies and to see if the other bot can handle the hit.

Kyle did this vs Sting...Dennis (dbm) mentioned fighting some powerful weaponed bots that did this for the same exact reason

Obviously, R6 couldn't take the hit.....while rattler could.....and most of the damage to R6 happened with the drum spinning downwards....so , while this was not the plan, I guess it would depend on whether you judge by damage inflicted or flying bots as your criteria

How about the ttatt vs wobbles fight? was that even close?

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:02 pm

but why not spin it the right way once there beater stopped?
i was a good fight though

havent seen it yet
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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:17 pm

Cody Harris wrote:
but why not spin it the right way once there beater stopped?
i was a good fight though

havent seen it yet

cody..read my lips....they worked on the bot and reversedthe esc wires...the driver didn't know and the spin up so quickly and become a blurr...so he didn't know it was spinning in the wrong directiom

being a bit green and never having done this, I'm sure that he was scratching his head and wondering why his bot was flying after every hit. Finally he realiazed it, reversed directions and removedthe front panel from the other bot just before the 1 remaining belt broke.

Conclusion: He probably won't do that again, except possibly to test the rigidity of a big weaponed bot , if the structure looks to be weak

from our standpoint as a team, at least we know that the current drums, bearings shaft, etc can take a pretty good hit and rattlers frame as well...in that the only damage to it was that it had no belt.....the other belt shredded against a ti cover in a previous fight.....

no harm in disagreeing, but your take on the ttatt vs wobbles decision would be interesting to hear

Do you recall some one on this forum campaigning against us (kind of like you and Alex) and then disappearing into the woodwork...in your words it was 'here we go again'

Well guess who was a judge at this and the last event as well.

expect our wedges to disappear and more destructive weapons in the future...taking the judges out of the picture is the only way...but you already know that

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PostSubject: Re: Miami Dade Youth fair 2010 this weekend!!   Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:34 pm

read your lips?
I'm sorry i hadnt read you right up on the other forum till after that post.
With the adrenalin of the fight it is reasonable to not realize
I dont remember anyone else commenting and disappearing sorry im sure if i was reminded i would remember.
Well wobbles. I got bored watching it. Very Happy
I just went back to try to watchi it again and youtube isnt working
From what i did watch i think id go with ttatt, but in future id like to see it used more of a flipper then just a wedge, but agian that goes with that adrenalin thing. All in time
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