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PostSubject: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:51 pm

as an entertainment perspective vs a competitive perspective what would you like to see more of?
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:14 pm

more reliable bots (it drove me crazy in miami) and three minute matches
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:30 pm

I would like to see some 120 or 220 pound meltys spinning at 6k

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:53 pm

Id like to see more frequent competitions, especially for some of the larger weightclasses,

love to see effective designs that not only kick booty but have some more aesthetics like diesector and gear crow.
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:06 pm

Actually, I think that what we have are basically modified rc cars.

How much longer before combat robots are no longer on wheels?? Soon enough, everything will be flying or hovering and shooting lasers,etc.

The typical wheeled bot with edge or spinner will be passe.

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:16 pm

rjw wrote:
Actually, I think that what we have are basically modified rc cars.

How much longer before combat robots are no longer on wheels?? Soon enough, everything will be flying or hovering and shooting lasers,etc.

The typical wheeled bot with edge or spinner will be passe.

well if you want to go that far...

it would be nice to have the bot become autonomous... no longer would good designs suffer due to poor driving, programmmed to express agression
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:26 pm

I think that if you take away the human factor, it won't be as interesting...

I like the idea of 3 dimensional combat..

armored multirotor copters could be very cool to watch

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:57 am

I'd like to see an east coast HW arena/yearly competition.

rjw wrote:
I think that if you take away the human factor, it won't be as interesting...

I like the idea of 3 dimensional combat..

armored multirotor copters could be very cool to watch

In my opinion, armored and flying won't go too well together. While they may be cool, you'll just wind up with a bunch of fights ending in 1 hit KO's that all look the same at normal speed.

On the other hand, I think an automous melty would be incredibly cool....
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:31 am

For now, regular competitions would be of the most benefit to most teams.

As I see it, there are two realistic/logical ways the sport could change in a gradual way, and the order I prefer is
1. Make at least part of each battle autonomous--this would force a level of sophistication in control and sensors that is currently lacking

2. Make the arena something more than just an open, uniformly flat surface. Maybe ramps at first, then steps (giving a real advantage to walking bots), then "mounds" or other curved surfaces, finally add stuff like rocks (non-uniform, movable), mud, and grass.

Of course, there are some limitations in certain weight classes and/or "leagues" that could be changed. (But generally are there for practical reasons) For instance:
add arena hazards in the 12/15 lb class
allow projectiles
allow flame weapons
allow electrical/magnetic weapons
allow flight
eliminate the 'entanglement' restriction
allow liquid/arena-fouling attacks

How about team matches--two bots vs. two bots?

And if you really want to push the envelope, someone should design a robot that can climb the walls! To my knowledge, this is currently allowed, but no one has attempted it.

Also, I'm still waiting for someone to make a double drum. (call it NoGyro)

One last thought==fight to the knockout/tapout. Just imagine- no more judges. I think this would actually make the people who have to do the awful job of judging really happy. (and probably lead to some potentially LONG BORING matches, I suppose)

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:49 am

rdubard wrote:

2. Make the arena something more than just an open, uniformly flat surface. Maybe ramps at first, then steps (giving a real advantage to walking bots), then "mounds" or other curved surfaces, finally add stuff like rocks (non-uniform, movable), mud, and grass.

How about team matches--two bots vs. two bots?


first something like this

except in and in closed arena, that would definitely change the game, but i dont think to many would be in favor if it

and tag team battles is something if been thinking a lot about lately and i think would definitely get some more excitement from the audience. think about it, fight it just like a wwe match, 5 min limit, each team has a bot in their corner, tags to switch out, if both bots from one team get involved its up to the other bot to break it up (or cause an all out frenzy). over all its a good show
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:50 pm

I could see a lot of controversy over tag team or just team in general because of who gets paired up with who.
Now if it was just two from the same school then it wouldn't be bad but the schools that already dominate will do so twice as bad.
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:09 am

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:31 pm

as far as tag team goes i would say both teams would have to agree to fight together, i wouldn't force people to be teamed with people they don't want to be with.

and that poor arena =P
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:15 pm

Alex Udanis wrote:
I know....I know.....I know. What i want to see more of...... the students of Miami Lakes Educational Center designing their own robots!

Then come on down and see for yourself....and we can put an end to the BS...

We have a meeting every friday afternoon.....today there were 40 kids present... more than a few of them are Mastercam and Solidworks certified and could actually teach you quite a few things....

There may also be guitar lessons being given...do you play?

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:00 am

i though of this when i was at the fair =P

demolition derby rounds, run four bots at a time, then take the winners of each mini rumble and put them together for a final rumble
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:26 pm

lol it is a bit ridiculous that they can meet every friday of there summer but cant stop by here to say hi
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:43 pm

You guys seem to like to pollute other people's threads with useless accusations....

Get with the technology or get out of the sport

Even you could build a melty, in that it's possibly the easiest build possible.

why don't you just start your own thread with all your acccusations and see who replies?

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:54 pm

come on everybody save your fighting for the robots
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:22 am

back on topic...

I'd like to see a true national educational event again...we need some incentive to bring everyone together once a year.

It's been said before, but this sport/hobby is too small to be divided into different camps, each with their own agenda, so to speak.

United we have a chance of growing it...divided all this perishes.


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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:05 pm

i have to agree but being from outside of miami i dont see botsiq getting to that level. All of the regional events around the country are supported by the ntma which now has the NRL

The NRL also has a program with solidworks that solidworks is donating $10k a year to different schools around the country for them to build arenas
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:19 pm

Do you have any links to the SW thing?

they do sponsor 1 of MLEC's bots and Miami could use a new decent size arena. the 8 x 8 currently being used is small and possibly a little tired.

Nola is a big influence down here as I'm sure you know. I was not around when whatever falling out happened, but it would be nice if a well organized event with representation from the whole country could be arranged.

Mind you, with NERC/franklin offering a 15 lbs class and no one yet registered, I wonder if it's just the timing of it, or what. Seems like you guys up there should be on it ,if you expect it to continue to be offered??

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:25 pm

im sure most of the kids from plum wouldve liked to have gone but its comes down to the adviser
There is a new adviser this year and with alex gone it should be intresting to see what comes from them, Don and alex little but not so little brother jake have a lot of experience but alot of seniors were also lost.

The timing is kinda tough for us, but we're not the only team that could have gone. Not sure if many of the schools up here are really even intrested in competeing more let alone traveling 4 hours plus across the state.

O well
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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:02 pm

Cody Harris wrote:
The NRL also has a program with solidworks that solidworks is donating $10k a year to different schools around the country for them to build arenas

Any link to this?

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:32 pm

Alex

I hear you

I don't think that MLEC would be doing much if any travelling out of town either due to lack of finances, plus the loops that have to be jumped through to organize kids travelling.

On the other hand, I think it was Rick frisco or someone up in your area that was pushing for NERC to include 15's in their events.

Now that they have, it is kind of disappointing to see absolutely no one attending. wouldn't you say?

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PostSubject: Re: what would you like to see more of in the sport?   Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:54 pm

ya i was hopping to see some bots in the 15 class, especially after everybody was wining about it two years ago. i blame botsiq for making a non-standard class, its coming down to the whole battlebots thing again, they wanted something exclusive that they could control and its making it harder on everyone else in the sport
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