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PostSubject: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:03 am

so I decided to start on a beetle full body spinner using what I have laying around, that beying a few castle creations car motors of various kv from 3800 to 6900

I chose the 3800 motor for torque and after testing the banebots 30d wheels at 40k rpm I now have a new problem besides the giant motor.

at about 10k the wheel grows to about 2" from the original 1-3/8"

past 30k watching a bonded wheel seperate from the rim and bounce off every wall in my room gave my cat something to chase but no working mechanism for me, figures

Soooo does anyone have any wheel suggestions for a suitable 30-40k rpm rubber wheel or is this just not a good idea, also under full load of the shell I don't see the wheel going past 25k.

I have tested other durometers also and have found skateboard wheels tend to chip and explode past 15k rpm and they were from 45a to 60d

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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:59 am

try a colson if you can
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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:21 pm

COLSONS!!!!! of the same diameter are running fine in our 15lb FBS
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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:12 pm

how far do you think I could shave the wheel before i hit the hard plastic hub?

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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:33 pm

Senai might be a good one to answer that, from what I remember he ran them down pretty far
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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:41 pm

Look up McKee Stewart and call them.

The guy down there is the local colson dealer and knows a good bit about casters and durometers and all the information involved with them.

He should be able to help answer any questions.

Ask for the guy that takes care of the colson wheels there.... I forget his name but I always ask them that and they put me straight through to him.

Tell him you are doing battle bots and need some info. He will take care of you.

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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:08 am

Cody wrote:
Senai might be a good one to answer that, from what I remember he ran them down pretty far

1) DAM U CODY!
2) I'll go to school and measure the dia. Can't remember off the top of my head.
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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:43 pm

Colsons are AMAZING!!!!! thanks for the suggestion I shaved them quite small but i still dont think they

will work Evil or Very Mad too big still bahhh

Has anyone ever tried thick o-rings streched over a pulley for high speed use?
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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:17 pm

http://www.mcmaster.com/#rubber/=b92etj

rubber comes in tubes of varying densities
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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:32 pm

Evan Steeves wrote:
Has anyone ever tried thick o-rings streched over a pulley for high speed use?

BAD IDEA! DON'T DO IT! I can tell you from experience it won't work. No matter how tight you get the o-rings, after about 5K they will start to deform and will come flying off your hub. Stick with wheels, they're much more reliable.
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PostSubject: Re: High speed friction drive wheels...?   Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:23 am

SenaiERI wrote:
Evan Steeves wrote:
Has anyone ever tried thick o-rings streched over a pulley for high speed use?

BAD IDEA! DON'T DO IT! I can tell you from experience it won't work. No matter how tight you get the o-rings, after about 5K they will start to deform and will come flying off your hub. Stick with wheels, they're much more reliable.

I second this! They Blow up. Literally.
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