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PostSubject: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:30 pm

The results and finals brackets are posted on the Bots IQ PA Site as of 4 PM today.....

I am pissed !!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will not attend if things are not changed !!!!!!!

Points are lopsided also!

Add two teams up: 1 who has a first round and the second who fights in the first round.

Take both of them out with 2 losses within the same round of the brackets....

Lopsided !!!!!

NON Acceptable is the final word !!!

No changes, No Tournament for us !!!

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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:50 pm

well this is stupid were gonna have to foreit the first match
unless the judges make a big fit about foreiting one match before we fight ourselves
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:53 pm

Question i dont get it y have it set up like that it just dosent make sense


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Here are links for everyone:
http://botsiqpa.org/files/winners_bracket_2011.pdf
http://botsiqpa.org/files/losers_bracket_2011.pdf

How are they points messed up?

I too believe the current set up of the brackets are not how the should be and I think it would benefit the event is they paired them properly!
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:55 pm

that would be KV vs. plums undercutter right ???


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well this is stupid were gonna have to foreit the first match
unless the judges make a big fit about foreiting one match before we fight ourselves



It's not plum vs plum till the second round. First it is plum vs wm
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:55 pm

they want all the good bots to destroy themselves
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:57 pm

yeah idk i geuss they are giving the less experienced teams a better chance... idk

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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:58 pm

Alex wrote:
Dony D wrote:
well this is stupid were gonna have to foreit the first match
unless the judges make a big fit about foreiting one match before we fight ourselves



It's not plum vs plum till the second round. First it is plum vs wm

yea i know why not foreit the first round so if we win (probably wouldnt anyway) we wouldnt have to go up against ourselves
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:00 pm

[quote="jakerheimer"]that would be KV vs. plums undercutter right ???

yea KV vs Shocker
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:06 pm

will we realy not go Frisco ???
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The results and finals brackets are posted on the Bots IQ PA Site as of 4 PM today.....

I am pissed !!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will not attend if things are not changed !!!!!!!

Points are lopsided also!

Add two teams up: 1 who has a first round and the second who fights in the first round.

Take both of them out with 2 losses within the same round of the brackets....

Lopsided !!!!!

NON Acceptable is the final word !!!

No changes, No Tournament for us !!!

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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:07 pm

Take the points system to test... Put two teams out in the same round...

50 pts for a win
10 pts for a loss
5 pts for an appearance

2nd seed Group A makes it to Bout 41 and loses then loses again in Bout 43

Thats 55+55+55+55+15+15 = 250 pts

10th seed Group C Makes it to Bout 46 and lose then loses again in Bout 44

Thats 55+55+55+15+15 = 195 pts

Both made it to the same bracket position and have 2 different scores...

A difference of a Win Score plus appearance 55 pts...

They should award the top 4 teams in each group with a first round bye and 55 pts for doing their best to be ready and fight in the preliminaries.

Pissed !!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:08 pm

You can go with another teacher but I am out if things are not changed!

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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:08 pm

Wouldnt you recieve more points by fighting through the losers bracket rather then staying in the winners bracket as well?

edit: I just actually looked at the brackets. Is there no losers bracket I guess and the loser ends up back fighting who evers in the winner bracker?

Edit2: If you win through without any loses as a 2 or 3 you'll fight 7 matches at 55 pts a fight plus 300 arena champion right?(685 pts)
So if your 1st or 4th you only get to fight 6 matches with no rewards for placing where you did? (630 total pts)
But if you loose in the first round(15 pts) but win through the losers bracket and loose in the finals thats 9 wins and another lose plus 100 pts for second. (625 pts)

right?! this is so stupid...


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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:15 pm

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Wouldnt you recieve more points by fighting through the losers bracket rather then staying in the winners bracket as well?

yes you would oh

then i guess we can go to Ohio frisco?
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:52 pm

yah but what he is saying is it shouldn't be like that its so uneven
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:54 pm

yeah losers bracket wins shouldnt be as many points per win as winners bracket wins.


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yah but what he is saying is it shouldn't be like that its so uneven
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:15 pm

I'm working on homework but here's what I have out of this?
If you win through without any loses as a 2 or 3 you'll fight 7 matches at 55 pts a fight plus 300 arena champion right?(685 pts)
So if your 1st or 4th you only get to fight 6 matches with no rewards for placing where you did? (630 total pts)
But if you loose in the first round(15 pts) but win through the losers bracket and loose in the finals thats 9 wins and another lose plus 100 pts for second. (625 pts) So second place and only 5 pts behind?
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:27 pm

I've been a big fan of BotsIQ PA and tried to do my best to help/ support the program but if this is the route there going to choose I think this is my time to fade away from it
I'm pretty confident I'm not going to be the only one either

edit: I get that they have good intentions, its just not the right execution.


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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:37 pm

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I've been a big fan of BotsIQ PA and tried to do my best to help/ support the program but if this is the route there going to choose I think this is my time to fade away from it
I'm pretty confident I'm not going to be the only one either

yea theres always the ntma
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:56 pm

Alex wrote:
So from what I hear they pulled the brackets from the website

Butttt the links still work
And if they should decide to disable the links...
Losers Bracket
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:27 pm

So I saw one of my professors from new ken here at university park today. She was basically the main contact between penn state and botsiq. I asked her if she was involved at all and she said she offered all that she could to them and hadnt heard any thing back, kinda like my deal for the past few years. She said she last she heard they were trying to change the way the tournament was run, and funny she happened to mention plum in what she was telling me.
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:58 pm

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So I saw one of my professors from new ken here at university park today. She was basically the main contact between penn state and botsiq. I asked her if she was involved at all and she said she offered all that she could to them and hadnt heard any thing back, kinda like my deal for the past few years. She said she last she heard they were trying to change the way the tournament was run, and funny she happened to mention plum in what she was telling me.

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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:43 pm

link dosnt work for some reason
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:43 pm

nothing for me
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:44 pm

so what its basically saying is its the same as cal u
same people in our brackets we just have to repick a number
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PostSubject: Re: Brackets are posted on BOTS IQ PA site   Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:15 pm

Looks alot better but the better teams are still being screwed out of points. They should give points by seeding so you would actually start off with points before your first fight
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