ok, as suggested, I started a new forum for myself. Along with that design, i originally came up with the idea after seeing wayachi, and on a 120 lb class bot, a friend at school, his dad has a battlebot that they named tutrle w'axe, which looks similar to wayachi, but has two arms instead of three, and got massacred by shrederator. I never saw that match, but it was about 4 years ago, they haven't done anything with it since, and i just found out about it. It is horribly bent up, and i don't have any experience with acetylene torches, just a soddering iron.
Camden W mega contributor
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I was at this event at the state fair 4 years ago. this is where my liking to full-body-spinning robots really started, its also the exact robot that crushed the aforementioned turtle w'axe (sorry i can't find ANYTHING on it ;( but when i get a chance and a camera i'll take a pic of it sitting in my school's shop.)
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 8:02 pm
this is just a quick freehand sketch, i have about 30 more pics, but this one is the most full, the motor dimensions may be wrong, but if anyone knows where i could get some stuff for getting this thing from a sketch, that would be really helpful
Cody 2000+ club
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 8:06 pm
Kindof hard to see the details of the picture. What weight class are you planning to be in? What components are you planning on using so far?
Don Doerfler mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 8:08 pm
i would go with 2 drive motors
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 8:21 pm
Im planning on doing the 450g weight class, the drive motors are those 30:1 gold motors, no idea where to get the ESC or transmitter/reciever, nor what to build the weapon out of (full body spinner), here is another pic:
2 motors you say? will it still be balance-able when gyro effects kick in at hopefully 5k+ rpm?
really sorry for the not-so-good pics...i don't have a good camera
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 8:29 pm
that unable to edit thing is annoying... basically, i want to try to do a variation of haperovahveroV2
here's a link i found of it, something i want to try to copy, with improvements of my own http://www.robosota.fi/index.php?sivu=robotit&robo_id=336&toiminto=robotti
Cody 2000+ club
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 9:45 pm
I'm not sure if I'm confused as what your describing (I mean you are using metric lol) or if your confused about the way the FBS works. Take a looks at kyle's 3lb FBS he is building: http://battlebots.forumotion.com/t633-donatello-beetleweight
This is probably the most effecient way to lay out an FBS. With an ant weight you can probably get away with direct driving the shell with an outrunner motor. Take a look at fingertech robotics website. They make great antweight parts (drive motors/ESC)
limeblisss
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 10:51 pm
I tried my hand at making an ant fbs... epic fail. You could probably use Sanyo gearmotors as they are much lighter than the Spark Gold gearmotors (.3 oz compared to 1 oz)
Take a look at this fbs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUYGQR9fLMU
In the description there are also some photos.
To warn you, it is very hard to make a successful ant fbs... The shell needs to be very balanced
Another example of an fbs is Baby Blaster, bent my titanium on Warpig pretty badly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGO4vx_6JoQ
Koolaid64 ULTRA contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Sun May 01, 2011 11:11 pm
Cody wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm confused as what your describing (I mean you are using metric lol) or if your confused about the way the FBS works. Take a looks at kyle's 3lb FBS he is building: http://battlebots.forumotion.com/t633-donatello-beetleweight
as is my design isn't that space efficient if i rework it i could probable get a smaller shell
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Mon May 02, 2011 1:12 am
yes! perfect example! thank you im going to look more into both those
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Mon May 02, 2011 4:26 pm
hmmm... where could i contact the makers of baby blaster, team ghetto logic robotics..
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Mon May 02, 2011 5:42 pm
ok, i've started my list of materials, although it will be a few moths before i'm really ready...and wow does fingertech have a lot of awesome stuff
Battery: ??? (combo to push 18-24v) http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/products.php?cat=Batteries
ESC:Fingertech TinyESC v2 http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ft-tinyESCv2 Not sure how many i'll need for 2 wheel motors and a weap motor
Wheel drive motors: Sanyo micro 100:1 gearmotors http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/992 or 50:1 HP motors http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/998
Weapon motor(s): 2 sanyo 10:1 micro gear HP motors http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/999 or 30:1 http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1093
or 20:1 gold sparks http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ft-spark16
Reciever...??? Controller: 3-5ch 2.4 Ghz
plating (weapon): 3/32" AL or TI or 1/16" steel. Chromoly teeth (bot): 1/32" CF or AL or TI (structure): ??? attachment pieces: ???
wheels: ???
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Mon May 02, 2011 5:53 pm
and a very smexy looking reciever: Spektrum BR6000 DSM DuaLink 6-Ch Receiver http://www.fingertechrobotics.com/proddetail.php?prod=spm6000br
Koolaid64 ULTRA contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Mon May 02, 2011 8:04 pm
i won't be able to properly reply untill i get back from classes but don't buy anything yet
Koolaid64 ULTRA contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Mon May 02, 2011 10:26 pm
for you weapon you want something more like this http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2110
or this http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2108
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Mon May 02, 2011 11:45 pm
my problem is i just don't feel safe direct driving the weapon, even if it is an antweight.
Though... they are pretty cheap, how about any of these motors?: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=14398 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8140 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4918 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=12916 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=14738 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=14732
these are all very similar motors...but which one to get?
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Tue May 03, 2011 12:04 am
damit!! i had a huge list of motors, then said i couldn't edit any longer...
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Tue May 03, 2011 1:07 am
no one said you had to direct drive it although most ants do. Not sure where your going with the motor alternatves you posted when the ones kyle posted are tried and proven.
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Tue May 03, 2011 7:03 am
neither do i, but i figured my bot is going to be built around whichever drive motor i choose, so i just wanted to see what else was out there.
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Tue May 03, 2011 7:33 am
and at this rate, considering the price of the motors, i would be willing to try direct drive. It would end up being less weight that i could add to the weapon.
also, does anyone know of any type of design software i could get, especially for free? otherwise i'm stuck with notebook sketches or MS paint
Koolaid64 ULTRA contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Tue May 03, 2011 10:06 am
google sketchup is free the motors i recommened would be for you weapon system, and you would gear them down with belts and pullies
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Tue May 03, 2011 3:19 pm
emachine shop is a free 2d program
Camden W mega contributor
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Subject: Re: Camden's confoundations Tue May 03, 2011 4:12 pm