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 Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.

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xpachenkox




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PostSubject: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 6:22 pm

So i started designing next years bot. Scar 3 will be a littlebit different this time. Our drum is a new animal now.
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 6:28 pm

give up on scar 2 so quick? if so, why?
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 6:47 pm

well actually scar 2 was the same bot as last year. but we designed scar 2 like 2 months before prelims and got it all put together after finals were over. and it has a lot of problems. it works, but its way overweight. So were trying to make a drum where the weapon motor is inside the drum itself. So the footprint is way smaller.
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 6:55 pm

xpachenkox wrote:
well actually scar 2 was the same bot as last year. but we designed scar 2 like 2 months before prelims and got it all put together after finals were over. and it has a lot of problems. it works, but its way overweight. So were trying to make a drum where the weapon motor is inside the drum itself. So the footprint is way smaller.

It works great for little bots but not so much in 15lbs
Unless you completly customize the motor like jamo has
A team from Meadville has done it in there bot that was machined from a solid piece to
Worked great for a little bit, then they didn't have a drum at all

That's assuming you plan on pressing An outrunner in similar to how they do in beetles and not a large drum thats belt driven like fluffy

Keep maintenance in mind and being able to easily fix/replace your drum as well
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 7:02 pm

I actually have a belt drive like fluffy, but i saw that their drum failed a lot. so im trying to make a very durable design. I thought of the outrunner idea but i didnt think it would be strong enough. i have a fiago (spelling) motor in my desing so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 7:07 pm

I think fluffy had a timing belt and that stripped a lot. ive used vbelts a lot so i think ima stick with those.
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 7:29 pm

I see I see
I'm interested to see what you come up with
Keep in mind gyro forces and drive ability

How about introducing yourself as well: https://battlebots.forumotion.com/t40p390-introduce-yourself
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 7:39 pm

What do you think about using steel tube for the drum shaft? Just for weight.
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Luke

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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 9:36 pm

Nice to see that I am not alone in starting designs for 2012-2013 year early. I started work on a new design for Plum's 2012-2013 year a bit before this year's prelims. (Done most of the designing at home)
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 10:07 pm

we've already started makin inventor models, glad im not the only obsessed one here
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 10:12 pm

Lol..... Is it sad that the frame is in aluminum and driving around? Was in wood by the end of the week after finals
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 10:17 pm

Mr. P wrote:
Lol..... Is it sad that the frame is in aluminum and driving around? Was in wood by the end of the week after finals

I had a frame driving around last week too lol
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 10:18 pm

The other team said it wants to think about it for the summer. They might think of something different.... The other team is improving on this years design. Frame is built. Motors, gearboxes in ( needed improvements). And it drives. Armor is done in thin scrap sheet metal, weapon is drawn, now the small things. Never fails though, we willing be rushing at the end in 340 + days to get it done.
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Mr. P wrote:
Lol..... Is it sad that the frame is in aluminum and driving around? Was in wood by the end of the week after finals

I never thought I'd feel behind with my intention of getting the design done by summer, and frame cut over the summer.....
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Don Doerfler
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 10:44 pm

i started brainstorming for mine
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 10:50 pm

Don Doerfler wrote:
i started brainstorming for mine

Your statement, and Alex's make me really happy college teams can't compete at SWPA botsIQ, if they could Plum would really be in trouble.....
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 11:16 pm

I've been working on our 2012-2013 bot for a while now as well. Currently working on some Solidworks components.

Seeing as our program is still in its infancy, we don't have many previous designs to go off of, and we still don't have Solidworks in our computer lab so most of the work gets done here at home. (I actually am still using my 60 day student trial which mysteriously keeps renewing itself)


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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeThu May 10, 2012 11:19 pm

Luke wrote:
Don Doerfler wrote:
i started brainstorming for mine

Your statement, and Alex's make me really happy college teams can't compete at SWPA botsIQ, if they could Plum would really be in trouble.....

I see how it is lol
Hopefully mine will actually drive right by then haha

Don what are your plans for school btw
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeFri May 11, 2012 11:29 am

Ive been doing a lot inventor lately and i think its coming together well. we are definately starting a lot earlier than last year. because we got the bot finished after finals. so were starting early. scar is something new this time.
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeFri May 11, 2012 11:43 pm

We don't want to start ours too early and then have too much spare time next year, like we already did this year.. Too many things need to be done in the school during the last few Weeks of school anyways... That being said, we Do have several ideas already drawn up, and half of a wooden frame built.. The rest will come after I decide for sure this summer if were doing another asymmetrical beater, or an undercutter.
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeSat May 12, 2012 2:18 am

That ShamWOW! spare time will get you everytine...
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PostSubject: Re: Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.    Beginning design for 2012-2013 Botsiq year.   I_icon_minitimeSat May 12, 2012 9:23 am

Amanda wrote:
We don't want to start ours too early and then have too much spare time next year, like we already did this year.. Too many things need to be done in the school during the last few Weeks of school anyways... That being said, we Do have several ideas already drawn up, and half of a wooden frame built.. The rest will come after I decide for sure this summer if were doing another asymmetrical beater, or an undercutter.

You know you're living a pretty good life when you have an excess of free time.
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The way I see it; the longer we wait, the less time we have to needlessly take it apart out of boredom and risk damaging something. That was a lesson my team learned the hard way this year.
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And the less time you have to wok out the bugs and get it solid
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Amanda wrote:
The way I see it; the longer we wait, the less time we have to needlessly take it apart out of boredom and risk damaging something. That was a lesson my team learned the hard way this year.

Sounds more like a team management issue more than a time management issue. Personally I just keep the underclassmen as far away from the robot as possible.
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